New High-Speed Rail Link in Thailand, Good or Bad Idea? (3 posts)

Topic tags: environment, thailand, trains, travel
  • Profile picture of OurChiangMai Admin OurChiangMai Admin said 1 year, 4 months ago:

    There has been much talk over the last few months about new high-speed rails links planned for Thailand and neighbouring south-east asian countries.

    Two example routes have been Bangkok to Chiang Mai and Bangkok-Nong Khai. Perhaps in the future linking up to Shanghai in China and Singapore.

    What do you think about this?
    Do we really need high-speed railways in Thailand?
    Are they a good idea?
    Would a move like this be better for the environment in the long run?

    Please discuss below.

  • Profile picture of Ricky Ward Ricky Ward said 1 year, 3 months ago:

    Just looked at the Kunming-Singapore rail connection on the net yesterday. All being driven by China with a link from Yunnan to Luang Pra Bang then Vientiane and on to Bangkok & beyond.
    One site in Malaya was full of complaints about the slowness of railway improvements in Malaysia.
    No site mentions upgrading rail services to Chiang Mai.

    I think we need improvements to passenger rolling stock and track to Chiang Mai and that means new carriages without air-con – totally unnecessary in the cool of the evening. Also bikes should not receive a 90 baht charge. 20 baht is enough.

    Goods trains can run during the day to prevent overnight congestion.

  • Profile picture of Alan Bull Alan Bull said 1 year, 2 months ago:

    Here is an update I just read in the Bangkok Post:


    Businesses still unclear on PPP

    Businesses are urging the government to clarify private-sector participation in the development of major rail projects linking Bangkok with Chiang Mai and Rayong.

    They are confused about whether the Chinese government will be allowed to invest in the two lines. China has already committed to a joint investment in the Nong Khai-Bangkok-Padang Besar route.

    The Thai government needs to confirm whether it will open international bidding on the two projects, as many countries have expressed interest such as Japan, they say.

    The 750-kilometre Bangkok-Chiang Mai route is estimated to cost 250 billion baht and the 220-km Bangkok-Rayong line 150 billion. China has said it is interested in investing in the Bangkok-Rayong route.

    Deputy Prime Minister Trairong Suwannakhiri, as chairman of a committee promoting the role of public-private-partnerships (PPPs), said private firms also want the Bangkok-Rayong route extended all the way to Trat province to facilitate trade with Cambodia.

    They say the return on investment would be higher due to the greater volume of goods and passengers.

    The Transport Ministry has been tasked with studying the feasibility of both routes. Japan is assisting with the study. The committee is also considering a draft PPP law to replace the Public Private Investment Act of 1992.

    Tharadol Piempongsan, a deputy secretary-general to Prime Minister Abhisit Vejjajiva, said the present Act required about four years on average to process joint public-private investments.

    The government wants that shortened to seven months excluding the time needed to conduct environmental and health impact assessments.

    The State Enterprise Policy Office is required to prioritise the first lot of PPP projects.

    Source: http://www.bangkokpost.com/business/economics/224716/businesses-still-unclear-on-ppp